INTERVIEW

Alice Gee | 14/10/2025
In a world where importance, originality and success is determined using metrics of virality, The Ramona Flowers are firmly stepping in the opposite direction with their new album, instead focusing on raw honesty, navigating depths of vulnerability, personal growth and creative reinvention taking priority. Sat with singer Steve Bird, guitarist Sam Dyson, keyboardist/guitarist Dave Betts anddrummer Ed Gallimore, the band are excited to rediscover earlier sounds, excited about the potential and evolution of their music. What unfolds is a portrait of a band unafraid to tear up the rule book, strip things back and grow. It’s more than a new album, it’s a whole new era.
Alice
When you began working on the new album, did you go in with a clear structure or concept in mind, or was it more about experimenting and creating what felt right at the time?
Steve
We had done the same things for the past three albums, so this time we wanted to try something different, mainly just being as honest as I could lyrically. This is probably the most honest and stripped-back I’ve ever been in my writing. The written process itself was different too.
Sam
We all came in with ideas, so it was much more collaborative this time. Everyone had their own collection of ideas, and we’d sit together, listen through them, and decide, “Oh yeah, that one’s really cool, let’s go with that.”
We’d usually pick one idea from each of us, which is really nice because it meant everyone had a sense of ownership over certain songs on the album. I think that made it all feel more connected and interesting.
Alice
Did you feel comfortable to lay things in the album and be vulnerable?
Steve
We've been together a long time, so we know each other inside out. I had some big events in my life. I went through addiction problems then having a child, and the pandemic hit. It was just a bit mad that everything was happening at once. I think it was a mix of all those things, along with realising how hard I’d been trying before. It’s really difficult to be completely honest when you’re writing songs but I feel like I finally found a way to just let it all out this time.
Alice
There’s often that moment needed. You can plan and want to be open, but it doesn’t always work like that. There are moments where you feel more comfortable and more understanding of it all, where you can make sense of it and communicate it in a way that feels right.
Steve
I started doing therapy, and understanding a lot more about myself. As you get older, things make a bit more sense.
As a songwriter, it’s always difficult when you're talking about people you love. There's always things about my past lovers in the songs, which makes my wife uncomfortable to hear.
Alice
You don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, obviously, but I guess you get to a point where you just want to speak your truth and be honest about your feelings. It’s that balance, learning how to navigate it.
Did you find that this album marked a bit of a pivot from the sounds you’ve created before, like an evolution into something new? Or was it more about returning to something familiar, a kind of home comfort?
Ed
Definitely not a home comfort. We moved around studios like they were going out fashion, and we recorded all over the world.
Our producers are really good at encouraging us to make the most of what we’ve got. I think, going into it, we knew we wanted to change up our sound. We just didn’t know exactly what we wanted yet.
Sam
What we did is get away from the electronic thing. We're a real band. Everyone plays really well, so we want it to be more organic and real.
Steve
I think the environment really affects how you feel. When the guys are writing the music, what they play influences what I want to talk about, and that’s always shaped by where we are. It definitely helped us this time.
Ed
It's really hard to be inspired, if you wake up every day and live the same life.
Alice
What was important to you in shaping the identity of the album and what felt important for you to express in terms of identity?
Steve
We were trying to find something different, and we found a lot of ideas from our early work. We wrote ‘All Night’, which is one of our first songs we released. We realised that’s the sound of this song, and the rest will spawn from that one.
Ed
What’s interesting is that, towards the end of the process, we started writing a few tracks that summer, right at the tail end of the album, and it almost feels like those songs have one foot in this album and one foot in whatever’s coming next.
Because the album was made over such a long period of time, there were loads of songs that ended up falling by the wayside, some we were sure would make it on. Really good ones, too. But when you listen to the album now, you can actually hear that progression of us growing in confidence with what we’re creating, and Steve becoming more confident in sharing his story. I think what’s coming next feels really exciting.
Alice
Were there any difficult moments?
Steve
When we do certain gigs, especially the acoustic ones we’ve got coming up, there’s always that thought that someone might not like it. I find you have to explain the meaning behind the songs a lot more in those intimate settings, and that can be quite difficult to put into words. It can feel a bit uncomfortable, especially when you’re surrounded by all that energy. It sort of stirs everything up again and it’s a weird feeling.
Alice
How do you know when to put it to bed and actually release something? It feels like you could just keep creating forever with new ideas, new spaces. How do you find that moment where you say, “Okay, it’s time to let this go and put it out there”?
Sam
It’s hard to move on to the next one until this one's out.
Steve
I have a feeling the next one will be a different version with us. It's not going to sound the same musically, and lyrics are going to develop confidence in that.
Alice
How do you think it's reflected on you as individuals, as well as a group?
Sam
It was a pretty heavy-duty process. Creativity takes its toll, mentally and on your relationships too, especially when you’re travelling and trying to navigate everything. I think we’ve all grown in confidence, both individually and as a band.
Overall, this whole process has probably been the most positive album cycle we’ve ever had.
Alice
Things just get more complex as you get older. You’ve got families and responsibilities. I feel like the older I get, the harder it is to just throw myself into something completely, because there’s so much more to think about.
Sam
We realised that because of all that, when we write now, we tend to go away for periods of time and stay on-site. It helps to step out of normal life completely. Otherwise, it’s hard to really get into it. You want to just be there, fully in it, and stay in that creative space.
Alice
I guess after being together for so long, you really get to know each other, when someone needs a bit of support, especially with such an emotionally open album and being away from family on tour.
Sam
We're all very comfortable around each other. We can tell Dave tends to shut down and be quiet, when he's having a hard time. Steve is the opposite.
Alice
Everyone is so different in how they manage those things.
The lyrics touch on really personal experiences, especially around mental health. Does writing and sharing those experiences feel like a form of therapy, or more about communicating your truth
Steve
When you sit down and write, it feels like therapy. Sam and Jon McClure would be there working with me.
Sometimes it’s hard because you’re digging into things you’re not ready to fully share. To make the songs the best they can be, I have to go there emotionally, and it can be intense, but I hope people connect with them.
For example, one unreleased song, Sins of the Father, explores my complicated relationship with my dad and questions about becoming a father myself. Even in live performances, it’s already resonated with a lot of people. That’s what we aim for, creating songs that genuinely touch people.
Alice
I like that the song highlights the more human side of life, the natural struggles we all go through. It brings people down to earth a bit, and I think that’s comforting for them.
Dave
That's the core of what we did. This album is about getting down to real human things, because it's getting out of control at the moment. It’s hard to tell whether it’s actually real.
Alice
It's relatable for people to explore life's complexities. Especially in a world where worth is often based on perfection or a certain idea of success.
Dave
I’ve realised, especially in this world of AI, music, and advertising, that the idea of success is getting completely distorted. Society pushes this notion that success is being super wealthy, owning everything, having the coolest tech, or being the most popular, but that’s total bullshit. Real success as a human being is whatever it means to you. If you’ve had a tough life, it might look very different than someone who’s had it easy. Yet that version of success often isn’t celebrated because it’s not glossy or flashy.
Just because you’re not doing something extreme, that doesn’t make it any less valid. I don’t think that kind of pressure is healthy or helpful for anyone.










